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Please use the audio file as the first preview. The first preview file is shown in the site gallery, and people can't listen to a picture that says "announcer pack"
I don't think you would credit anyone in FL Studio, you would credit them wherever you're sharing the FL-Studio-created-derivative. Just like above: The credits are not embedded in the track or in FL studio itself, they're listed just above where the file is downloaded.
@JaidynReiman: Good. Thanks for tracking all that down. That would suggest this: https://opengameart.org/content/lpc-teen-unisex-base-clothes is not outdated. The licensing is correct on that page, but only because it includes content from Joe White, who's derivatives remain CC-BY-SA/GPL. (When there is a pack of assets with various licenses for various subcomponents of the pack, only the most restrictive common license to the entire pack is used as the whole pack's license. Most of the content on that pack is CC-BY-SA, GPL, and OGA-BY, but because Joe White's pants are only CC-BY-SA, and GPL, the "whole pack's license" becomes CC-BY-SA and GPL sans OGA-BY.)
I beleive Death's Darling did update her older entries on OGA to include OGA-BY, but only the ones where all content within the pack was covered by OGA-BY. It is also why this https://opengameart.org/content/liberated-pixel-cup-lpc-base-assets-spri... lists CC-BY-SA and GPL in the sidebar, but has the OGA-BY caveat you mentioned; A lot of the content in that pack is under OGA-BY, but not all of it. If there are any other LPC submissions where it should also include OGA-BY, let me (or Death's Darling) know, because we definitely want that extra freedom on those assets.
"...I can't find any indication that the "original" Long-Sleeve Shirt was not also a derivative of Joe White..." (Conclusion: It isn't a derivative of Joe White's work)
Although Death's Darling's pack that Nyom derived this asset from is not OGA-BY, all the subcomponents used to create this, are.
@Nyom: If you are willing to include it, we would love to have OGA-BY 3.0 listed as one of the licenses for these assets here. :)
ElizaWy's Shortsleeve Shirt is actually dual released under OGA-BY 3.0, CC-BY-SA 3.0, and GPL 3.0
Where is the Shortsleeve shirt released under OGA-BY 3.0? Is the longsleeve shirt based on the shortsleeve shirt? or is Death's Darling's longsleeve based on something else unrelated? Speculating on how it was created is secondary to how Death's Darling herself attributed the derivatives she created.
I'm actually not sure where Joe White comes into play here.
Nor am I. It looks like Joe White created the pants but had no contribution to the shirt. Death's Darling didn't link to any of the other assets she derived hers from, so it's difficult to trace the provenance.
I think the original shirt was by RedShrike. Joe White may have done some modifications later down the line, but for some reason wasn't credited by bluecarrot on the Shortsleeve shirt despite being credited elsewhere.
My guess is Joe White may have made later modifications (to a shirt?) but it was not upstream of bluecarrot's modifications, so was correctly not credited in bluecarrot's modifications. Again, difficult to tell without having links to the specific assets you're referring to.
I question crediting the artist of the base model for adding assets onto the model... IDK if that counts as a derivative or not
Creating assets specifically so a certain base model can "wear" them does not make them derivative of the base model... UNLESS the base model was integral to the creation process of the clothing assets, which is likely the case. If you can make the clothing without referencing or tracing or copying parts from, or materially using the proportion of the base model, then no they aren't derivatives. Is this a shirt derived from flesh? I don't know, but it would explain why Redshrike, as the base model creator, is being credited for derivative clothing. This also applies if the female model was a derivative of the male model, and the shirt was subsequently a derivative of the female model.
the Longsleeve Female shirt by ElizaWy does not appear to be a derivative of the Longsleeve Male Shirt.
Death's Darling indicates the shirt is based on Redshrike's female LPC model: https://opengameart.org/content/lpc-teen-unisex-base-clothes which is CC-BY-SA 3.0 and GPL 3.0. It's possible Redshrike changed his license to include OGA-BY after Death's Darling made her derivative, which makes Death's Darling's derivative eligible for OGA-BY, which makes this derivative eligible for OGA-BY as well... but the change has to cascade down from the top first.
I'm also not clear on where Wulax fits in here. Did he make a longsleeve shirt? is it the SAME longsleeve shirt that bluecarrot derived his from? Or did bluecarrot make a separate longsleeve shirt using none of Wulax's shirt and only basing it on Redshrike's base?
TL;DR: Please provide links to the specific assets being referenced. Without that, we can't change anything unless we hear directly from Bluecarrot, Redshrike, and Death's Darling (We can certainly ask them, but I'd like to be sure this isn't a question they already answered via attribution.)
I was about to ask where the original textures came from when I noticed you had added the list of sources. Thank you! :)
the pxhere sources are all CC0. Good.
the unsplash sources are not under CC0, but their derivatives can be so long as significant alterations were made, which these all have. Good.
the pixabay sources are not under CC0, but they were before 2019, so as long as the textures were aquired before then, they're good.
There are some issues with these, though:
The texture from OGA is not CC0, nor has it ever been in the past. The inclusion of a decal derived from this texture would make this submission CC-BY 3.0, not CC0.
If you don't know where scratches_dense.png, unsplash_rust02.png, or leaks_sparse.png came from, they can't be included since the source's license is uncertain.
Most pixabay textures used were available under CC0 at some point, but not this one, which was not uploaded until 2021, meaning it was only ever available under pixabay's new proprietary license, which is not compatible with CC0.
"You cannot use the textures for anything that directly competes with us. This includes, putting the textures on your own website, selling them, or giving them away. This restriction includes the textures themselves, as well as any minor modifications, for example, you may not make our texture seamless or tileable and then sell them."
These are nice decals, but in order for these to be hosted here, the following will need to be removed from this submisson:
leaks_streaks_sparse
leaks_sparse
scratches_bores
scratches_dense
splatter_02
splatter_03
splatter_04
splatter_05
unsplash_rust02
Or, remove all of the above except leaks_streaks_sparse and change the license to CC-BY 3.0. Let me know if you have any questions.
I'm loving all the voice stuff you're sharing!
These may be usable in broader range of applications if the reverb wasn't added. Or if a non-reverb version was available as well.
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Nice voice work.
Please use the audio file as the first preview. The first preview file is shown in the site gallery, and people can't listen to a picture that says "announcer pack"EDIT: Fixed, thanks! :)
done.
bumped for new content
I don't think you would credit anyone in FL Studio, you would credit them wherever you're sharing the FL-Studio-created-derivative. Just like above: The credits are not embedded in the track or in FL studio itself, they're listed just above where the file is downloaded.
I am not able to replicate this issue.
@JaidynReiman: Good. Thanks for tracking all that down. That would suggest this: https://opengameart.org/content/lpc-teen-unisex-base-clothes is not outdated. The licensing is correct on that page, but only because it includes content from Joe White, who's derivatives remain CC-BY-SA/GPL. (When there is a pack of assets with various licenses for various subcomponents of the pack, only the most restrictive common license to the entire pack is used as the whole pack's license. Most of the content on that pack is CC-BY-SA, GPL, and OGA-BY, but because Joe White's pants are only CC-BY-SA, and GPL, the "whole pack's license" becomes CC-BY-SA and GPL sans
OGA-BY.)I beleive Death's Darling did update her older entries on OGA to include OGA-BY, but only the ones where all content within the pack was covered by OGA-BY. It is also why this https://opengameart.org/content/liberated-pixel-cup-lpc-base-assets-spri... lists CC-BY-SA and GPL in the sidebar, but has the OGA-BY caveat you mentioned; A lot of the content in that pack is under OGA-BY, but not all of it. If there are any other LPC submissions where it should also include OGA-BY, let me (or Death's Darling) know, because we definitely want that extra freedom on those assets.
The good news is, that also addressed this uncertainty of mine:
Although Death's Darling's pack that Nyom derived this asset from is not OGA-BY, all the subcomponents used to create this, are.
@Nyom: If you are willing to include it, we would love to have OGA-BY 3.0 listed as one of the licenses for these assets here. :)
Where is the Shortsleeve shirt released under OGA-BY 3.0? Is the longsleeve shirt based on the shortsleeve shirt? or is Death's Darling's longsleeve based on something else unrelated? Speculating on how it was created is secondary to how Death's Darling herself attributed the derivatives she created.
Nor am I. It looks like Joe White created the pants but had no contribution to the shirt. Death's Darling didn't link to any of the other assets she derived hers from, so it's difficult to trace the provenance.
My guess is Joe White may have made later modifications (to a shirt?) but it was not upstream of bluecarrot's modifications, so was correctly not credited in bluecarrot's modifications. Again, difficult to tell without having links to the specific assets you're referring to.
Creating assets specifically so a certain base model can "wear" them does not make them derivative of the base model... UNLESS the base model was integral to the creation process of the clothing assets, which is likely the case. If you can make the clothing without referencing or tracing or copying parts from, or materially using the proportion of the base model, then no they aren't derivatives. Is this a shirt derived from flesh? I don't know, but it would explain why Redshrike, as the base model creator, is being credited for derivative clothing. This also applies if the female model was a derivative of the male model, and the shirt was subsequently a derivative of the female model.
Death's Darling indicates the shirt is based on Redshrike's female LPC model: https://opengameart.org/content/lpc-teen-unisex-base-clothes which is CC-BY-SA 3.0 and GPL 3.0. It's possible Redshrike changed his license to include OGA-BY after Death's Darling made her derivative, which makes Death's Darling's derivative eligible for OGA-BY, which makes this derivative eligible for OGA-BY as well... but the change has to cascade down from the top first.
I'm also not clear on where Wulax fits in here. Did he make a longsleeve shirt? is it the SAME longsleeve shirt that bluecarrot derived his from? Or did bluecarrot make a separate longsleeve shirt using none of Wulax's shirt and only basing it on Redshrike's base?
TL;DR: Please provide links to the specific assets being referenced. Without that, we can't change anything unless we hear directly from Bluecarrot, Redshrike, and Death's Darling (We can certainly ask them, but I'd like to be sure this isn't a question they already answered via attribution.)
I was about to ask where the original textures came from when I noticed you had added the list of sources. Thank you! :)
There are some issues with these, though:
These are nice decals, but in order for these to be hosted here, the following will need to be removed from this submisson:
Or, remove all of the above except leaks_streaks_sparse and change the license to CC-BY 3.0. Let me know if you have any questions.
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